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Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby Scorpion » October 12th, 2017, 7:13 am

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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby JuicedTruth » October 12th, 2017, 1:15 pm

It's a good thing health care is in such a good place in the U.S.

Also awesome how much backlash Michele Obama got for trying to make school lunches healthier. How dare she?
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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby Scorpion » October 13th, 2017, 9:58 am

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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby leftyg » October 13th, 2017, 11:25 pm

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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby Scorpion » October 16th, 2017, 8:59 am

Lefty, my post was t about increased risk of death.
It was about increased use of health care services for many health issues related to obesity and the increased costs associated with the need for additional access to treat these diseases
Once you are dead, there is no need for access. :roll:
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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby leftyg » October 16th, 2017, 10:51 am

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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby Scorpion » October 16th, 2017, 11:41 am



Lefty, all the health care risks in this link do not necessarily cause death immediately.
It compounds over time.
A disproportionate number of people who are obese and overweight are bound to overwhelm the system to address these associated illnesses.
More fat people at a younger age means more need to seek medical attention.

On a side note, the hubby has been having some nasty leg cramps at night.
He takes a statin for a "just over normal" cholesterol count.
He's tried magnesium and it decreased slightly.
I told him to stop taking both for a week and see what happens.
Well, they'll know, he says.
And if you stop taking it and your legs stop cramping and waking you up, you will know it's the drug.
If it stops, he can ask for something else or decline to take it since his count isn't outrageous.
Sounds like it's more prophylactic.
Now, what irritates me is that the doctor dismissed his symptom because he's on the lowest dose available.
So what, it's still a drug.

I also told him if he changed his diet, and lost weight, his cholesterol would likely decrease.
I'm now 80% Paleo and lost 10 pounds the first month.

People lack discipline and it's "easier" to see a doctor and take a magic pill. :roll:
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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby leftyg » October 16th, 2017, 11:59 am

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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby hmmmmm » October 16th, 2017, 12:23 pm

The worst form of inequality, is to try to make unequal things equal ~~~~~ Aristotle

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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby leftyg » October 16th, 2017, 10:22 pm

Interesting hmmmmm. I found this article that says being overweight is actually healthier than being at normal weight or below http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/02/b ... mortality/

No one argues that obesity is not a huge health risk. But how obese. I suppose a 500 pound person is probably at significant risk of early death and a person who smokes a couple cigarettes a day is probably much better than a pack a day smoker. But a 200 pound person might actually be healthier than a 160 pound person. I am picking a male about 5'9" or 5'10" Now, on average, I am guessing that a non smoker is not at as much risk as a person who smokes a couple cigarettes a day.

Also, I read your article (I remember when you set me straight on the notion that Europeans smoke more than Americans). Part of what your article said is that smoking is less prevalent than ever and that has caused it to be less lethal than our obesity epidemic, but that is like saying that because nobody drinks gasoline that drinking gasoline is less lethal than either smoking or obesity. I would be willing to bet that if drinking gasoline were suddenly fashionable that it would kill far more people than either obesity or smoking. I am thinking of one person who smokes and another who is quite obese. Both depend on degree. If you smoke two or three packs of cigarettes a day you are not long for this world and the same if you weigh 400 or 500 pounds.

One example from sports might help explain. Triples are better than doubles in baseball. BUT because so few triples are hit, doubles are actually more important if that makes any sense. Anyway, thanks for the article.
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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby hmmmmm » October 18th, 2017, 12:12 pm

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Re: Health care will be overwhelmed

Postby Michaels153 » December 2nd, 2019, 7:33 am

Goody bye.
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