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Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 4th, 2020, 7:38 am

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 4th, 2020, 5:38 pm

Michaels, it gets a pass because it is a red herring. https://www.google.com/search?q=red+her ... e&ie=UTF-8
Biden was sent as an emissary to the Ukraine to deliver a message that if Victor Shokin was not immediately fired as a prosecutor, Ukraine would not get a billion dollars in funding from the United States, the EU and the IMF.

Shokin was fired for that reason and there are a lot of people in high places in government in several countries that know this. The right would look like fools if they pursued this allegation. They would be smart not to even try because they would only look foolish. But I hope they do try because I think they will be eating crow if they do..
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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 4th, 2020, 7:08 pm

You have been wrong before.
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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 4th, 2020, 7:32 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 6th, 2020, 1:55 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 7th, 2020, 3:20 am

Remember when the Democrats lied in the trial that acquitted President Trump from the Democrat's lies? One of the lies was that President Trump's phone call to the Ukraine president was only to hurt Joe Biden who was his main opposition for the upcoming election. The results of the Iowa caucus is out and Joe Biden came in fourth place. So I guess that Joe Biden was not the main opposition that President Trump is going to face in the election. I guess President Trump has nothing to fear from Joe Biden and the upcoming election. What is that you say? You say Iowa is only the first primary caucus? YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WHEN YOU WROTE THE ARTICLE FOR IMPEACHMENT, BEFORE THE FIRST PRIMARY CAUCUS! Joe Biden may not be the democrats presidential nominee to face President
Trump. You don't know who is going to be the nominee, And yet you stated that President Trump's phone call to the president of Ukraine was only to investigate Joe Biden because Joe Biden was President Trump's main opposition to the upcoming election. LIE! Nothing but one lie after another from the Democrat Party.
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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 7th, 2020, 4:29 am

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 8th, 2020, 2:18 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 8th, 2020, 2:33 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 8th, 2020, 9:29 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 9th, 2020, 2:01 am

Every other president has released them, even Nixon. What does Trump have to hide? I do not care about the legal arguments. I just want to know what he has to hide. Every other president did it.
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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 9th, 2020, 8:14 am

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 9th, 2020, 10:12 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 10th, 2020, 9:11 am

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 11th, 2020, 7:25 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 12th, 2020, 1:58 am

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » February 12th, 2020, 11:26 am

Your opinion of Obama does not have to change if you do not want to change it. But at some point you have to accept the bottom line facts at the center of every disagreement with one another. Everyone can find their own reasons to admire or criticize the actions of these presidents and sometimes it is interesting to speculate on the what if's by the actions not taken and why such as NAFTA, the Paris Accords, Iran, etc. People have said that Clinton wished that he had a war during his administration from which he could have acted upon and have it recorded as part of his legacy. You talk about how bad things were when Obama took office but the actions that he did once he took office have been questioned on historical grounds for the results. Maybe if Obama had done what President Trump has done, the results would have been similar or better to what President Trump has accomplished. But the bottom line is that if President Trump surpasses President Obama in four years or less, then why President Obama could not have done the same or better in eight years is a fair question.
I have said this before, but I can understand looking at the conditions that were present when Obama took the office as being a formidable task to overcome. But I don't think people look at the renegotiation of NAFTA, and trade with China and the re-positioning of our financial and military resources in the world, with the same objectivity.
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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby leftyg » February 19th, 2020, 7:10 pm

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Re: Why does Biden's alleged corruption get a pass?

Postby Michaels153 » March 3rd, 2020, 12:30 pm

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