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The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » September 16th, 2019, 12:32 pm

https://townhall.com/columnists/williammarshall/2019/09/13/exposing-the-trayvon-martin-hoax-n2553059
Exposing the Trayvon Martin Hoax
By William Marshall

This may be too much reading for the liberal slime, who are consumed in destroying The President, Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh, and anyone and everyone that does not agree with them. I found out some more information behind this chapter from the Slime Encyclopedia, that I wanted to share with the non-slime elements in our society.

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On the right, there are many great investigators I could point to, but one I’d like to highlight here is Joel Gilbert, whose new documentary, The Trayvon Hoax, I had the opportunity to preview before its release. It will officially be released on September 16 [Today] along with a book by the same name.


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One of the key pieces of evidence used against Zimmerman was a recorded phone call between a young woman named Diamond Eugene and attorney Benjamin Crump. Eugene had been Martin’s girlfriend and the last person to speak to Martin the night of his death, other than Zimmerman. Crump was representing the Martin family. That phone call launched a media-fueled frenzy to arrest George Zimmerman, prompted President Obama to equate Trayvon Martin to a hypothetical Obama “son”, and fired up race hustlers like Al Sharpton.

In that phone call, in which Crump appeared to lead the witness, an emotional Eugene insisted the shooting of Trayvon was “racial” and “He ain’t do nothing. He was just like going to get his little brother a Skittle and a Arizona ice tea. That’s it.” That was enough for the media to run with and launch what would become a seeming race war, with the eventual creation of Black Lives Matter, the assassination of five Dallas police officers at a BLM event, a fake “Hands up! Don’t shoot!” narrative following the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, with accompanying riots, and yet more riots in Baltimore following the death in police custody of drug dealer Freddie Gray.

The problem for the prosecutors of Zimmerman was that the real Diamond Eugene refused to testify, probably realizing that she was digging a deeper and deeper hole for herself. So somehow, another woman named Rachel Jeantel pretending to be “Diamond” took the stand, in what became one of the most farcical courtroom spectacles ever witnessed, as her fraudulence quickly became apparent while she unraveled on the witness stand. The real Diamond Eugene never appeared to the public, however.

George Zimmerman was acquitted of the murder charge and, thankfully, justice prevailed.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Mrtazeman » September 17th, 2019, 4:33 pm

Lets look at we know to be the facts

1) Trevon Martin, a Black teenager, was walking through a neighborhood with a box of skittles and ice tea

2) Zimmerman followed Trevon Martin with a loaded gun

3) Zimmerman was ORDERED by authorities not to follow this kid

4) There was an altercation and Trevon was murdered..


Bottom line if the circumstance were reversed Michaels would be Outraged and would want to hang the black kid...

Justice WAS NOT SERVED...
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » September 17th, 2019, 9:56 pm

Bottom line(?) The bottom line was that every liberal activist in the country did every thing they could to railroad Mr. Zimmerman into a murder charge. Obama and all of the democrats in DC, with all of their allies in the media were willing to do whatever they could to destroy Mr. Zimmerman but the evidence was not there to convict him. The liberals and Democrats followed their same playbook with President Trump and Justice Kavenaugh as they did with Mr. Zimmerm. Facts be damned. Rule of law be damned. But in the end, it wont be the facts nor the rule of law that will be damned.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Mrtazeman » September 18th, 2019, 4:10 pm

No Michaels, this isn't a liberal or conservative issue. This is an issue where an innocent kid that was murdered in which his crime was being black while drinking a can of ice tea and eating skittles while walking through a white neighborhood. It was about a mother who lost a child, it was classmates who lost their friend.. It was a sick day in America and you celebrate it like it was the fourth of July...

As for Zimmerman, you might want to check his background before you jump in bed with him..
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » September 19th, 2019, 9:37 am

Mrtazeman wrote:No Michaels, this isn't a liberal or conservative issue. It was not a liberal or a conservative issue. This began and continues to be a liberal issue only. The police who resonded and investigated at the scene did not place Mr. Zimmerman under arrest. Why? Because the facts at the scene did not (according to the police who were there) indicate that a crime had been committed. The police at the scene did not find evidence of a law being violated. The liberals became outraged that Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested and demanded that he be arrested (in spite of what the police found at the scene). The liberals demanded that Mr. Zimmerman be tried. The liberals said that Mr. Zimmerman "murdered" Mr. Martin. The evidence at the scene corroborated the statements that Mr. Zimmerman told the police. That evidence was presented at the trial. Mr. Zimmerman did not violate any of Mr. Martin's civil liberties. Mr. Martin assaulted Mr. Zimmerman, which is a felony. Mr. Martin could have killed Mr. Zimmerman by poiunding Mr. Zimmerman's head against the sidewalk. The wounds that Mr. Zimmerman received were not self inflicted. This is an issue where an innocent kid The assault on Mr. Zimmerman, by punching him in the face and pounding Mr. Zimmerman's head on the sidewalk are not the actions of an "innocent kid."

that was murdered in which his crime was being black while drinking a can of ice tea and eating skittles while walking through a white neighborhood. It was about a mother who lost a child, it was classmates who lost their friend.. It was a sick day in America [and you celebrate it like it was the fourth of July... ] And how am I celebrating this Mrtazeman? How does pointing out facts, and evidence about something suggest that I am celebrating this. The liberals want to ignore facts and evidence so they can continue the narrative they want to spin. And they want everybody to go along with their narrative that surprisingly is never compared to jumping in bed with (below)

As for Zimmerman, you might want to check his background before you jump in bed with him..
Again, because i point out facts and evidence that don't mean anything to you because it does not support your narrative, that is your definition that I am "jumping in bed with him."?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Mrtazeman » September 20th, 2019, 6:50 pm

The police at the scene did not find evidence of a law being violated. The liberals became outraged that Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested and demanded that he be arrested (in spite of what the police found at the scene).


Are you freaking high like your boy Rush the limp dick druggie Limbaugh?

There was a dead black child riddled with bullets and Zimmerman with blood all over him and you think there was no crime committed? Someone committed a crime.. Lmao, you are more brain washed than I thought..

And decent humanbeings became outraged knowing that this killing was being brushed under the rug.. it's not protocall for the police releasing someone after they have killed another humanbeing..
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » September 20th, 2019, 11:49 pm

Mrtazeman wrote:
The police at the scene did not find evidence of a law being violated. The liberals became outraged that Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested and demanded that he be arrested (in spite of what the police found at the scene).


Are you freaking high like your boy Rush the limp dick druggie Limbaugh?You have a big vulgar mouth that i would be more than willing to wash out with a bar of soap.
Mr. Martin's death was not ruled as a murder. Did you forget that you idiot? Mr. Martin died as a result of his attack on Mr. Zimmerman who shot Mr. Martin in self defense. That is not murder.


There was a dead black child riddled with bullets and Zimmerman with blood all over him and you think there was no crime committed? Mr. Martin did assault Mr. Zimmerman. But he paid for that crime with his life.Someone committed a crime.. Lmao, you are more brain washed than I thought.. if you had the the brains the size of your ass you would be able to figure that out just by looking in Wikipedia. But since your struggling so much to understand this, I am thinking that your brains must be the size of a much smaller piece of your anatomy.

And decent humanbeings became outraged knowing that this killing was being brushed under the rug. This trial received nation wide attention. Nothing was being "brushed under the rug." it's not protocall for the police releasing someone after they have killed another human being.. You really are an idiot. You should talk to a police officer and he would tell you the same thing. Did you ever hear of a false arrest? There was no evidence at the scene to suggest anything other than self defense. And that was confirmed at the trial.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » November 13th, 2019, 12:22 am

Michaels, subsequent events with Zimmerman demonstrate that he probably killed Trayvon without justification https://www.newsweek.com/george-zimmerm ... tin-459300 It is a litany of events. It would have been better for humanity if Zimmerman had just left Trayvon alone instead of murdering him which is what he did.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » November 13th, 2019, 8:27 am

leftyg wrote:Michaels, subsequent events with Zimmerman demonstrate that he probably killed Trayvon without justification https://www.newsweek.com/george-zimmerm ... tin-459300 It is a litany of events. It would have been better for humanity if Zimmerman had just left Trayvon alone instead of murdering him which is what he did.


Leftyg, Subsequent events with Mr. Zimmerman DO NOT DEMONSTRATE "that he probably (?) killed Trayvon. The Newsweek article is a REPRINT of a 2016 article, which at that time, and still now, is irrelevant to the actions of Mr. Zimmerman regarding Trayvon, and also irrelevant to the trial's conclusion.

Your reprint article, may be just another piece of history showing what I told Mrtazeman about this being a liberal issue. Review what I said in this post to Mrtazeman. Mr Zimmerman's life after the trial could have resulted in a positive way, and may still end up in a positive way, (as people characterize negative versus positive. I am inclined to believe that if it did turn positive, that would not sit well with the liberals.
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Mr. Zimmerman did not murder Trayvon. The courts have established that fact. Move on.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Mrtazeman » February 9th, 2020, 8:46 pm

Mr. Zimmerman did not murder Trayvon. The courts have established


Do you also think that OJ is innocent as well??

If your pal zimmerman would have followed orders a child wouldn't have been killed...
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » February 9th, 2020, 9:57 pm

MIchaels , it is too bad Michaels that when Zimmerman approached Trayvon that his father saw his son and figured he needed help. So he got his gun and shot Zimmerman. That would have been somebody protecting his family wouldn't it. No Zimmerman went looking for a fight and murdered an innocent kid. History has shown that my ending would have been better and more just.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » February 10th, 2020, 10:03 am

leftyg wrote:MIchaels , it is too bad Michaels that when Zimmerman approached Trayvon that his father saw his son and figured he needed help. So he got his gun and shot Zimmerman. That would have been somebody protecting his family wouldn't it. No Zimmerman went looking for a fight and murdered an innocent kid. History has shown that my ending would have been better and more just.


The bottom line of your rambling incoherent mess is that your dream interpretations should be shared with you and your therapist. Your imaginary scenario has no constructive value. The Trayvon Martin case is over. It is settled law. Get over it.
And where is your Toulmin method of argumentation? Where is your backing that Mr. Zimmerman went looking for a fight. He (Mr. Zimmerman did not murder anybody, the law settled that allegation.) Only those who do not respect the rule of law (you), would argue otherwise.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » February 10th, 2020, 12:29 pm

The bottom line of your rambling incoherent mess is that your dream interpretations should be shared with you and your therapist. Your imaginary scenario has no constructive value. The Trayvon Martin case is over. It is settled law. Get over it.

Rambling is what you do; that is your problem. I simply stated what I thought and what subsequent evidence has demonstrated. Notice it was not very long, just a comment.

And where is your Toulmin method of argumentation? Where is your backing that Mr. Zimmerman went looking for a fight. He (Mr. Zimmerman did not murder anybody, the law settled that allegation.) Only those who do not respect the rule of law (you), would argue otherwise.


This is what the National Post said about Zimmerman pursuing anybody:

George Zimmerman was told not to pursue suspects during instruction to serve as Neighborhood Watch coordinator at the complex where he shot Trayvon Martin

George Zimmerman was told not to pursue suspects or act as “vigilante police” during instruction to serve as Neighborhood Watch coordinator at the central Florida condominium complex where he fatally shot teenager Trayvon Martin, a prosecution witness told jurors.

During the second day of testimony in Zimmerman’s murder trial today in Florida state court, Wendy Dorival of the Sanford Police told jurors that she visited the Retreat at Twin Lakes condo community in September 2011 at Zimmerman’s request to explain Neighborhood Watch to about 25 residents.

https://nationalpost.com/news/george-zi ... ourt-hears
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » February 11th, 2020, 1:20 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/us/george-zimmerman-verdict-trayvon-martin.html
Zimmerman is acquitted in Trayvon Martin killing
[quote]By Lizette Alvarez and Cara Buckley
July 13, 2013

SANFORD, Fla. — George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer,... was found not guilty late Saturday night of second-degree murder. He was also acquitted of manslaughter, a lesser charge.

After three weeks of testimony, the six-woman jury rejected the prosecution’s contention that Mr. Zimmerman had deliberately pursued Mr. Martin because he assumed the hoodie-clad teenager was a criminal and instigated the fight that led to his death.

In finding him not guilty of murder or manslaughter, the jury agreed that Mr. Zimmerman could have been justified in shooting Mr. Martin because he feared great bodily harm or death.

The jury, which had been sequestered since June 24, deliberated 16 hours and 20 minutes over two days. The six female jurors entered the quiet, tense courtroom, several looking exhausted, their faces drawn and grim. After the verdict was read, each assented, one by one, and quietly, their agreement with the verdict.
Mark O’Mara, one of Mr. Zimmerman’s lawyers, said, “George Zimmerman was never guilty of anything except firing the gun in self-defense.”
He added that if Mr. Zimmerman was black, he likely would never have been charged. “This became a focus for a civil rights event, which is wonderful event to have,” he said, “but they decided George Zimmerman was to blame and to use as a civil rights violation.”

And while defense lawyers were elated with the verdict, they also expressed anger that Mr. Zimmerman spent 16 months filled with fear and trauma when all he was doing was defending himself.

“The prosecution of George Zimmerman was a disgrace,” said Don West, one of Mr. Zimmerman’s lawyers. “I am thrilled that this jury kept this tragedy from become a travesty.”
https://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-trial/index.html
George Zimmerman found not guilty of murder in Trayvon Martin's death

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/13/george-zimmerman-found-not-guilty/2514163/
George Zimmerman found not guilty
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » February 12th, 2020, 2:01 am

Michaels, the verdict in the Zimmerman trial was just jury nullification by a bunch of racists.

Given this argument. OJ dmust have been innocent because the jury acquitted him.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » February 12th, 2020, 10:44 am

Leftyg, there is an old baseball story of an argument with an umpire at home plate. After the argument was settled the umpire was asked about the strike zone.
The umpire is reported to have said: There are balls and there are strikes, but they are nothing until I call them.
As simple and true as that story is, it applies to our legal system as well. There are many court rulings that have been controversial in the eyes of the parties directly involved and from society. But consider what you are saying, and then consider the consequences of what you are implying.

First what you are saying: "the verdict in the Zimmerman trial was just jury nullification by a bunch of racists."
You did not know Mr. Martin nor Mr. Zimmerman personally in order to speak of either's actions nor tendencies.
You were not present at the scene of the incident between Mr. Martin and Mr. Zimmerman to be a witness.
You did not observe the police who responded to the scene and therefore did not witness their work in assessing and investigation the scene of the incident.
You do not know any of the members of the jury in order to make an assessment of their capabilities to process information and to make a judgement on the case.

These are the obvious and true facts of what you do not know. And what you do not know means that your information, from what to make a conclusion about is incomplete. You therefore can not make an informed decision about the outcome of this trial. You can only express your opinions about it. But that goes with just about everybody, because to some extent or another, there are aspects of every trial that is not known, even to the parties directly involved.

And now, consider the consequences of what your implying.
In our justice system, one is presumed to be innocent until proven to be guilty. And if as a result of the trial, one is judged to be guilty, then that person is now guilty until proven innocent. This is the essence of our judicial system and it does present to the people, a sense of fairness to all concerned. The people have reason to have confidence in a justice system that inwardly contains the mechanisms to be fair, and that is outwardly, transparent to the public. But if everyone felt that they were in a better position to make the correct judgements of the court from outside of the court, then every decision would foment public distrust of the system and bring about a sense of chaos where no decision is to be trusted, that there is no justice, and the only fair alternative as a result would be to take matters in one's own hand, and become a law unto themselves.
Our judicial system provides people the process to appeal any decision that they feel is wrong or unfair. That too is reason for the public to have confidence in our court system. Trust (not blind trust), but trust in our courts allows for our society to live at peace with one another. And that is as it should be.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Mrtazeman » February 12th, 2020, 11:19 pm

Stop avoiding the question. Do you believe OJ Simpson is innocent?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » February 13th, 2020, 12:56 am

The name of this thread is: "The Trayvon. Martin Hoax. I started this thread. I will write and post what i choose to.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » February 15th, 2020, 6:28 pm

The name of this thread is: "The Trayvon. Martin Hoax. I started this thread. I will write and post what i choose to.
No Michaels it is a fair question. Even I do not think, if I were a betting man, that OJ was innocent, but I am pretty sure that George zimmerman is not innocent either and both were acquitted. You need to have a point. Evidently you think it is OK for a suspicious white man to shoot a young black man.. this is a type ofthinking that does not square with what you allege to be your beliefs.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Mrtazeman » February 16th, 2020, 5:35 pm

I just don't understand how people like Michales don't understand why most people are upset. Leftyg, if you were going for a walk minding your own business, drinking ice tea and eating Skittles And i came after you with a gun, do i deserve what is coming to me?

Sad that Zimmermen is respected in right wing world.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » February 20th, 2020, 3:55 pm

Real, George Zimmerman is respected on the right because he gives them a condition and an excuse to be racist. Period. They hate the poor and the black and they love their guns.

On various occasions Zimmerman has shown us who he is, and people like Michaels refuse to condemn him.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 8th, 2020, 6:19 pm

It seems like the whole world except these two trolls have moved on and accepted the finality of the court's decision.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 10th, 2020, 7:00 pm

It seems like the whole world except these two trolls have moved on and accepted the finality of the court's decision.
Michaels, you are the troll. Real and I agree. You are the odd man out. If you believe that George Zimmerman is innocent then you must also believe that OJ Simpson was innocent because he was also acquitted.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 10th, 2020, 9:50 pm

"You and Real agree." That's just as stupid as Real's " for disclosure purposes. "
You two losers are wrong about just about everything you post about so when you two agree with each other its a joke.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 11th, 2020, 11:24 am

"
You and Real agree." That's just as stupid as Real's " for disclosure purposes. "
You two losers are wrong about just about everything you post about so when you two agree with each other its a joke.


You calling anyone a loser puts you on thin ice. This from a guy who does not even address the issue.

Question: are you a racist? I ask that because I do not know how you feel about OJ, but I know you will not address the question.

Also, namecalling is a dead giveaway that you are losing the argument which is all that matters to me.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 11th, 2020, 5:04 pm

Hey leftyg Shmuck. Try adding up all the times you called people names. Mic drop.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 11th, 2020, 6:55 pm

Michaels writes forcefully:
Hey leftyg Shmuck. Try adding up all the times you called people names. Mic drop.


Michaels, I did not call you a racist; I asked you if you were a racist, and there is a huge difference. It just seems like everytime a black person gets killed, it seems to meet with the approval of guys like you and Bob Frantz. I mean, "if" you considered the murder of Trayvon Martin a racist act, then I could say "Michaels is no racist" However, when you support the killer it leaves a question mark. Now, saying that it was murder is neither an absolution of guilt or a conviction. I do not know if you are a racist, so I have to ask. I can see a reasonable person saying Zimmerman was within his rights, but frankly I don't see that he was.. And you have shown me nothing to convince me. You call it a hoax and that is just Trump bullshit. Really. I am pretty sure Trump is a racist and you are his folllower. I want to know if you are a racist.

Look, my granddad, who I dearly loved, was a racist when he was young, but I forgave him. You have to examine your motives thoroughly; dump the glib stuff; it does not fly with me. And please, no mic drops; you might break a toe.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 12th, 2020, 1:23 pm

Leftyg, Did you see the article from which this thread started from? Did you read the title of the article? Did you read the author of the column? I did not say you didn't but then your saying I call it a hoax. "You call it a hoax and that is just Trump bullshit." Did you look up the definition of murder? Did you see the article I provided a link to from CNN? What was the title of that CNN article? Did the Martin - Zimmerman trial conclude with a guilty verdict? Did you call the jurists in the trial racists?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 12th, 2020, 4:18 pm

Yes, I read Mr. Marshall's opinion piece in which he says:
That was enough for the media to run with and launch what would become a seeming race war, with the eventual creation of Black Lives Matter, the assassination of five Dallas police officers at a BLM event, a fake “Hands up! Don’t shoot!” narrative following the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, with accompanying riots, and yet more riots in Baltimore following the death in police custody of drug dealer Freddie Gray.
Yes I read it and it was full of opinion, and not well informed opinion at that, just bloviated ramblings I have heard a thousand times before. They have a word for it now. It is called a snuck premise or a whole series of statements strung together without any evidence. Why is that OK? Why is making the attributing the motives of Trayvon's girlfriend OK? He cannot enter her brain. I do not get it.

This was simply jury nullification in Sanford Florida, and to dress it up in anything else is demeaning. It was one thing: one person's opinion.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 13th, 2020, 1:07 am

leftyg wrote:Yes, I read Mr. Marshall's opinion piece in which he says:
That was enough for the media to run with and launch what would become a seeming race war, with the eventual creation of Black Lives Matter, the assassination of five Dallas police officers at a BLM event, a fake “Hands up! Don’t shoot!” narrative following the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, with accompanying riots, and yet more riots in Baltimore following the death in police custody of drug dealer Freddie Gray.
Yes I read it and it was full of opinion, and not well informed opinion at that, just bloviated ramblings I have heard a thousand times before. They have a word for it now. It is called a snuck premise or a whole series of statements strung together without any evidence. Why is that OK? Why is making the attributing the motives of Trayvon's girlfriend OK? He cannot enter her brain. I do not get it.

This was simply jury nullification in Sanford Florida, and to dress it up in anything else is demeaning. It was one thing: one person's opinion.
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I don't know why you got sidetracked. Okay you read the article. The title of the Article was: "Exposing the Trayvon Martin Hoax" It was an opinion piece. It spoke about parts of the trial that I had not heard about, and that is what caught my attention. I discussed with Mrtazeman that this case was a liberal driven story, and it was. The media tried to prosecute Mr. Zimmerman in the court of public opinion and it was in that effort that they used the phone call referred to in the article as the main reason why he should be locked up. How does something so important to them (the liberals reporting this) become a non issue, when someone tries to impersonate Martin's girlfriend IN COURT! How come that Fraud, is not picked up on and reported on by the very same people who were trying to destroy Mr. Zimmerman? There is no snuck premise in revealing that fact. The jury in the trial did not find the prosecutor's case against Mr. Zimmerman credible and when the prosecutor resorts to presenting someone as someone else, in court, I can see their point. It wasn't a snuck premise that found Mr. Zimmerman not guilty of murder. And since the court did not find him guilty of murder, Mr. Zimmerman today is a free man who should not have been referred to as being guilty of murder after the trial, and still today by you. WHY IS THAT OKAY? Why is it okay for you or anyone else to refer to Mr. Zimmerman as a murderer when he wasn't convicted in court as a murderer. You said people are entitled to their own opinions but they are not entitled to their own facts. The fact is that Mr. Zimmerman is not a murderer. You should say you don't agree with the court decision. You should not say that Mr. Zimmerman is a murderer. And that is based on your own reasoning. Haven't you said that Hilary is innocent because she has not been convicted of anything? Do you know what acceptance is? Acceptance is acknowledgement of a fact, it does not mean that you like the fact, it just means that you recognize the fact. When you vote for something that doesn't pass, you can't change that. You should however accept it.
And you should not be name calling everyone who disagrees with you about this as racists, or implying that by questioning them if they were.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 14th, 2020, 2:34 pm

Look, I did not get sidetracked. The writer said a bunch of stuff I find speculative at best. BTW I did not see any source documentation in it, just his opinion. That he tied abunch of future events to it is very specualtion. I mean we have more killings by poloce then any country in the world by long shot https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -countries https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/1 ... -homicides My argument about the police getting killed was that it is their own behavior that causes it and the behavior of the right wing cheerleaders. It is wrong to kill anybody, moreless a policeman, but don't think that the Trayvon Martin murder had anything to do with it. And Black Lives Matter is a grou that is feed up with the killings, and they want them to end.

I just think that the author assumed too much. I don't know all the answers and neither does he. I do know the statistics I cited were correct.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 14th, 2020, 4:20 pm

So you dont think Trayvon Martin's death had anything to do with the killings.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 15th, 2020, 1:50 pm

So you dont think Trayvon Martin's death had anything to do with the killings.
If it did then George Zimmerman is responsible, not Black Lives Matter.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 16th, 2020, 12:17 pm

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-hypocrisy-cheering-violence/
More Hypocrisy from Black Lives Matter
By IAN TUTTLE
July 12, 2016 8:00 AM
... Last week, a gunman in Dallas opened fire on police at the end of a Black Lives Matter demonstration, killing five officers and wounding several others. Micah Johnson, the shooter, told a hostage negotiator that he was angry on behalf of Black Lives Matter and “wanted to kill white people, especially police officers.” Johnson’s Facebook page revealed an affinity for black nationalism, and he followed a Facebook group called the “African American Defense League,” which encouraged followers to “ATTACK EVERYTHING IN BLUE EXCEPT THE MAIL MAN” and “sprinkle Pigs Blood.” J


I did not see George Zimmerman mentioned here in the article. And I have not heard of a policeman blaming George Zimmerman for the violence being directed at them.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 16th, 2020, 12:48 pm

The point is that George Zimmerman supports a policy that cheapens Black Lives. The evidence is very clear on the amount of police violence and even citizen violence against young black people in America. George Zimmerman had no reason to kill Trayvon, and Trayvon had every right to take Zimmerman's gun and shot him "if" he had to. You also must admit that Ian Tuttle is a reporter for the National Review, a pretty right leaning journal

As to your comment about the shooter in the Dallas shooting, he was deranged and he badly focused his rage. And nobody on the right talked about it, including Trump: Politico wrote:
But more than 24 hours after news broke that a Coast Guard officer — an avowed white nationalist — was allegedly plotting to kill Democratic politicians and journalists, Trump has, at least so far, not said a word.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/ ... er-1179749

The plotters name was Christopher Paul Hasson, a 49 white supremacist who had a hit list that included
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, of New York, Sens. Chuck Schumer of New York, Cory Booker of New Jersey, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Kamala Harris of California, as well as former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas -- as well as CNN journalists Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo and Van Jones and MSNBC's Chris Hayes, Ari Melber and Joe Scarborough.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/politics ... index.html

And Michaels, there are others on your side that are like that like the El Paso whose manifesto echoed Trump policy. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/us/p ... tings.html or the Charlottesville killer of Heather Heyer was a white supremacist https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-cour ... nt-n945186

Is President Trump guilty for all those?
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby Michaels153 » March 16th, 2020, 4:03 pm

You speak such nonsense that i stopped reading your post. You definately are not interested in the truth, nor in finding the truth. You will say whatever you think forwards your ideology. You have lost yourself in self delusion.
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Re: The Trayvon Martin hoax

Postby leftyg » March 16th, 2020, 10:41 pm

You speak such nonsense that i stopped reading your post. You definately are not interested in the truth, nor in finding the truth. You will say whatever you think forwards your ideology. You have lost yourself in self delusion.
You are an uniformed racist. Notice, I no longer question your racism. Your comments about me are mainly autobiographical. Like I said, I would be deeply insulted if you said anything nice about me. You are all in for Trump, the Klan, and white supremacy, and that is something that is above my pay grade to fix.
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